In this episode of the Liminal Living podcast, Tom Rundel interviews Andrew Root, exploring themes of spirituality, the mystical connection humans have with dogs, and the complexities of faith within Lutheranism. They discuss Andrew’s personal experiences with grief and how these shaped his understanding of God. The conversation also delves into the redefinition of evangelism in contemporary society, emphasizing the importance of consolation and community in addressing the loneliness and despair prevalent in modern life. In this conversation, Andrew Root and Tom Rundel explore the themes of evangelism, grief, and the role of joy in the Christian community. They discuss the importance of ritual in modern life, the distinction between evangelism and lifestyle marketing, and Luther’s theology of the cross. The conversation emphasizes the need for a ministry of consolation that acknowledges suffering and grief while also celebrating joy and community. Root argues that true happiness is not the ultimate goal, but rather a deeper connection to God and each other through shared experiences of loss and pilgrimage.